Army Public Relations

UPDATE: The DVIDS command have been in contact, and have been very gracious. This is an extremely useful product for the media, and I have been assured that they will hold to their statements on site that all materials are in the public domain. I appreciate the efforts made by these folks and I have no problem with them at all. 2-21-2008

In Dad’s Army, there was a creature called a REMF. It was generally a soldier who was in the rear and used his power for anything but the benefit of the troops on the line.

I do not characterize this non-com as an REMF.

I featured Missouri National Guard Soldier Spc. Sarah Lupescu in my catgory Our Best: Babe Edition.

This morning I received the following:

Good morning,

Mr Simmins it has been brought to my attention that you regularly use products from the DVIDSHUB Website for your blog which is fine. However I have received some complaints about the use of some of the photo’s , mainly the titling of females service members as “Babes”. While I cannot tell you and do not desire to tell you what to post on your blog as a service member I would like to ask you to refrain from addressing female service members as babes.

In addition as the Non-Commissioned Officer in charge I can deny you access to our site. Please try and keep in mind that these ladies have families and friends, they themselves maybe uncomfortable having their pictures displayed in such a manner for the world to see. Take for instance SPC lupescu she is 19 yrs old and she made it clear to me that she is not comfortable at all with her photo being posted for use on a personal blog without her permission. It is unprofessional and I highly discourage the display of any service member in anything other than a professional light. Thank you for your time and assistance

I’ve done a search, and I am the only site outside DVIDS that has used the image and caption, which was reported accurately. The image was one of two at DVIDS from the 70th Mobile Public Affairs Detachment.

Here’s my reply:

Col. yyyyy, please be aware that I find Sgt. xxxxx’s e-mail highly insulting and presumptuous.

I use a variety of media products from all levels of the armed services to produce America’s North Shore Journal. DVIDS is but one. Had Sgt. xxxxx taken more than a moment to read my on-line magazine, he would have seen that I regularly publish material that may be found at no other non-military site. I support the military as strongly as any other publication in the United States.

All of the material I use from DoD sources is labeled as free for use, or free for use with attribution. I presume that I would not have access to material not intended for publication.

I am sorry that SPC Lupescu feels the way she does. I have changed the title of the post to read Our Best: Show Me State Edition.

The Our Best: Babe Edition category was created to highlight the women of the military who are doing their jobs and doing them well. I have received many comments from friends and relatives grateful that I featured their daughter or sister. In the time I have been posting these stories and photos it has become clear that few of them will ever appear anywhere but on a military site or on my magazine.

I have working with PAO’s in theater, and with DoD staffers for some time. Just today, I was part of an interview with Major General Lynch in Baghdad. It is not and never has been my intent to insult anyone in the military.

As for “unprofessional”, I would suggest that an Army that promotes GI Jill on her own army.mil website as Miss Utah could surely be generous and overlook the use of the term “babe”.

Should Sgt. xxxxx feel it necessary to ban me from DVIDS, so be it. Most of the material I publish comes from other sources. And, he will have been successful in offending a friend to the Army and to the United States military.

Here is the latest:

You are entitled to your own opinion and it is unfortunate that you are insulted, that however was never the intention of my email my point was about the titles being used to feature female service members being unprofessional. I see no post about male soldiers being referred to as Hunks or studs. In the military we pride ourselves on professionalism and would never refer to a female soldier as a babe, to a service member that is disrespectful simple as that. Having worked with numerous public affairs specialist this should be common knowledge.

If you read my email sir I never once implied that you where anti-military, anti-war or insulted anyone my concern and responsibility is to the integrity of the US Army and DVIDS period. Mr Simmins again the only reason I contacted you at all was because I received a number of complaints and not just from the young SPC her entire Chain of Command from commander on down shared their displeasure. Like I disclosed initially you are entitled to your opinion, however so is everyone else and not everyone shares your view.

Note that Lupescu is a member of the 70th Mobile Public Affairs Detachment. If this is the manner in which this unit deals with the media…

Let’s face facts. Nobody in the world is ever going to read about the 70th Mobile Public Affairs Detachment and Spc. Lupescu in the N.Y. Times or see them on CNN. I’m really sorry that I even though that there was a story here worth publicizing.

As for DVIDS, I dislike being threatened by non-coms. I have been approached in the past to remove certain publicly available information from stories at the request of the individuals involved. I would certainly have considered doing so in this case had Lupescu or ANYONE in her chain of command contacted me. You know, the people running the “Public Affairs Detachment”.

Instead, I received not one, but two poorly written e-mails containing a threat to remove my access to publicly available information. FYI, here is the DVIDS policy:

Information presented on or via DVIDS is considered public information and may be distributed or copied unless otherwise specified. Use of appropriate byline/photo/image credits is requested.

Were I a real SOB, I would file a FOIA request for all communications, written or electronic, from the DVIDS office concerning the use of DVIDS materials.


20 Comments to “Army Public Relations”

1 2
  1. LT Rusty says:

    Incidentally, has anyone actually followed his link? It was … amusing.

  2. LT Rusty says:

    Skippy … tactful as ever. :D

  3. Therapist1 says:

    Interesting. After the LT. Black case at the USNA, I am leary of any attempt made by a command to rescue someone form their own negative feelings. Had this been handled correctly and by the book, she should have been encourged to email the individual and directly address you about her disgust about how her image was used. Unfortunately when it comes to young women, the military typically does just that, “rescues.” By sending that email, they negated an opportunity for growth and assertiveness that could have encouraged this young woman to address future interactions effectively. Unfortunate that the USA has decided to not encourage her empowerment but rather reinforce a belief that others will fight her battles.

  4. Chris2 says:

    hmmm, I think a FOIA request sounds like the way to go :)
    and Skippy, stay where you are, subserviance is difficult to find in American women ;)

  5. Skippy-san says:

    Here is a link for the PAO types:

    http//:www.americanwomensuck.com

    [Editor: Skippy is apparently a commentor on another blog that linked this piece. While I would like to delete this URL, he seems insistant to have his say. So... supporting the First Amendment, I am leaving it up, without endorsing the sentiment in any manner.]

  6. Chris says:

    It’s pretty childish to not comply with someones respectful wishes.
    I guess your priorities are more in support of your ego than others feelings.
    why make this an argument fueled by your pride?
    Its ok to make a mistake, but not ok to make it twice, learn from others and have some humility.

    [Editor: the request was hardly respectful. Had the soldier chose to, my e-mail and comments on the post were readily available. Instead she and her command chose to involve another agency and that person resorted to outright threats.]

  7. Outlaw 13 says:

    Heaven forbid you say that someone is attractive. But that might mean that there are those that people find less than attractive…it’s an ugly world we live in, isn’t it?

    Seeing as though you are a civilian you should feel free to place whatever label you desire on a picture that has been placed on the web for anyone’s use.

    Does anyone think that PAO would release a photo of anyone that was ugly enough to make a train take a dirt road? PAO is responsible for putting the best FACE possible on the Army, so they usually release photos of good looking people, male and female. It’s stupid for anyone to think that someone wouldn’t notice.

  8. Sluggo says:

    Chuck,
    Sgt XXXX doesn’t have the power to “ban” you from DVIDS. If this is what our PAO troops are concerned about, it is no wonder we can’t get the message out on how we are winning. You run a great site, don’t fall to the PC crowd, it was a female PAO that first sent me to your site.
    Col T

  9. Carbon Monoxide says:

    “more female friendly word is in order,”

    Smokin’ hot babe?

    “Any of you hetero’s touch me, I’ll kill ya. Any of you hetero’s call me babe, I’ll kill ya. Any of you hetero’s call me Francine, I’ll kill ya.”

    Sgt. Hulka: “Lighten up, Francine.”

  10. Liz M says:

    I understand where the NCO is coming from. Describing a woman as a “babe” may not be fully appreciated by the person being labeled. I am sure that you had no negative intentions when using the word, but some may be offended. I enjoy the “Our Best: Babe Edition” posts, but perhaps a more female friendly word is in order,

  11. David says:

    Let the person who was personally offended contact you, then discuss it with her. Otherwise ignore the pencil neck non-com.

  12. AW1 Tim says:

    Yeah,

    I’ve seen this crap up close and personal when I was on active duty. They treat the rest of the front line commands in the same manner.

    If this were WWII, those @sshole’s would probably have their heads explode in rage over all the nose art painted on aircraft, and occasionally vehicles.

    Keep up the good fight!

    Respects,

  13. Scrapiron says:

    Make that ‘taking up the rear’.

  14. Scrapiron says:

    Ignore the PC police taking up the real. I put them in the same catagory as the anti-american JAG corp. Americans who aide the enemy should be shot and that would include 99% of the PC nuts.

  15. [...] Army Public RelationsIn which some Rear Echelon Mother Farker tries to shut down one of the friendliest to the military blogs in America. [...]

1 2